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PS…I don’t think it would be toxic to future eggs/caterpillars, but you could always rinse off the plants with water if you are concerned. I’ve brought them in and have them in their own cage. If an infected butterfly lays eggs, they will be infected and can spread the OE to other healthy cats who crawl over the same plants. These cuttings aren’t a perfect looking as some of the others but I can’t identify what I’m seeing. I’m in Houston and have been raising asclepias for 25 years. Please help, I still have 2 cages with cats. The only thing that helped was a mixture of water and Stop n Shop organic plant based dish detergent. Thin out the herd– if your milkweed plants are crowded, your milkweed patch can become a breeding ground for fungi. As a background, there must be at least 25 cats on the bush which is average size in a container about a year old. by Patti (Missouri City, Texas, USA) Monarch Eggs. I don’t spray monarch eggs/caterpillars directly with hydrogen peroxide and not sure if/how it would affect them. Hi Sandra, sorry to hear this. Hi Erin, Asclepias curassavica does not ‘contain’ OE spores…they are left on the plants by sick butterflies taking nectar and/or depositing eggs. One potential bacteria that causes this to happen is: Hi there. ), I notice one of my milkweed plants is growing yellow leaves at the bottom. What can I do to save the plant? All it takes is about five to ten caterpillars to demolish your plant. Insect that kills Monarch Butterfly caterpillars Location: North Central Wisconsin August 1, 2010 7:33 pm My aunt saw this bug killing one of the caterpillars in her garden. It was the 1st one I’ve seen this season here in Massachusetts. Tony, what peroxide mixture did you use to water your dirt before plants began to emerge? You might be familiar with the butterfly gardener catchphrase plant it and they will come. Thank Tony, for the leafhopper damaged post. The acceptance from the EPA is based on data from extensive testing on each product. I have 4 plant. I tried to call the second different nursery to get their input. I was thrilled and spent as much time as I could watching and photographing them. Amen. Is this fungus? I’m not sure if foreign substances would affect their perception…again, you can always test. Of course as a Purdue entomology grad i think they are the best. The tachnid fly has been covered. You can control their population easily. I hope the disease pages link helps you figure out what’s going on…good luck! Hi Pat, I’m not familiar with the issue. Please! Spray the plants while they are inside the cage or have cutting containers on a boot tray where you can easily see them if they fall. Because it's so diluted, I don't think it would be an issue for monarch eggs or caterpillars, but you would have to test to know for sure. I then asked if anyone else had called with the same problem. In the spring I lost over 40 and called the first nursery. Two different nurseries for my 5 gallon mildweed (tropical) plants. Hydrogen peroxide also adds more oxygen to the soil to prevent root rot. Hi Sara, this happens to milkweed in mid-late summer…most often on swamp milkweed. Hi Ralph, I’ve never heard of anyone doing this, so I would suggest testing a plant. If you’re having a lot of problems with this, you might want to consider rearing them in separate containers to see if you can avoid this problem in the future. Filed Under: Milkweed Garden Ideas, Milkweed Garden Pests and Guests, Organic Gardening. Simply: 1. Hi Barbara, fungus can be a problem with too much moisture or when plants are spaced too close together. I’m in central Florida. Hi Kurt, I always cut off problem leaves and sections of the plant if necessary…I would also check to see if you have spider mites by spraying a leaf to see if you can webbing. Hi Elana, sounds like a possible fungus…I would remove the affected leaves. Did you soak the dirt or just spray on top of it? Any ideas/suggestions on dealing with this problem. The stems look ok, I guess, but like I said, I’m a newbie to all of this!! I have never seen plants have an adverse reaction to it and I often use more than the charts. Hi! I wash all my outdoors buds. Do not gather these caterpillars up and put them back on the milkweed, thinking they just wondered off and couldn't find their way back to their food. Then you’ve come to the right page…. All my tropical milkweed has the black spots and then turns yellow. We remove any problem leaves and treat soil preventatively with hydrogen peroxide which has worked well for us. It can be especially bad with curassavica. Yes its normally to use Hydrogen Peroxide when making Bubble hash .. We easily had over 100 caterpillars but only three butterflies emerge. Hi Katie, this is normal for swamp milkweed and I’m not sure what causes this. Will hydrogen peroxide kill bugs in soil? I see nothing wrong with it, I’m sure it has pros and cons. I’ve not been successful with the last 80+ caterpillars. The causes of the caterpillars deaths are all different. Do you think this is fungal? Monarch Butterfly Garden- Bring Home the Butterflies, Butterfly Garden Ideas and Gardening Tips to Attract Monarchs, Swallowtails, Hummingbirds, and other Precious Pollinators, Are you dealing with milkweed fungus, leaf spot, and other issues not caused by annoying milkweed pests? Is this something that happens to milkweed? I have a number of butterfly weed transplants that I am trying to sell at a farmer’s market. Mix equal parts 3% hydrogen peroxide and distilled water. I dug up a large tropical milkweed after last years first frost and it grew beautifully all winter. I wouldn’t worry about overusing it though. ? Hi Anissa, yellow leaves is more common from overwatering, or if its yellow spotting, it could be a fungus: If you spray the plant with hydrogen peroxide, won’t that kill the monarch caterpillar? Those little beggars will crawl up your arm and bite like chiggers and will drive you crazy for a day. It begins on the edges of the leaves and gradually the whole leaf becomes purple. As of this morning I have officially lost over 40 caterpillars again. Alcohol, however, also is lethal to monarch eggs and larvae, so care must be taken when dabbing. I have some yellow/orange looking leaves. I planted a butterfly and pollinator garden a couple of months ago. Everything I've read has a 50/50 split of people that are super anti-bud washing and those that swear by it. You water with a hydrogen peroxide and water preventable y? Within the last 2 days I have had several cats die. The only plants not infected are the family jewels plants. There are flies that predate on the caterpillars and young chrysalides. I figure they are either going to die for sure from the leaf spot (the1 tablespoon 3% peroxide per 8 oz didn’t do anything after the fact), so I might as well treat them aggressively and see what happens. Another advantage of the Peroxide breaking down is that it releases free Oxygen into the area. I would post your photo in a facebook group like this: My swamp milkweed plants has reddish/purple edges on some of the leaves. I wonder what the issue is. We can be killing our caterpillars and not even be aware that we are doing so. Anyhow, all plants come back just fine the next season…. It’s been all day now and they’re slow to munch. If left for the leaf hoppers, they’ll quickly spread the bacteria to other plants in the vicinity. They then told me because I’m using tropical plants and not native that that was the problem. Help, I am doing everything the same , I totally wash all the stems before bringing in to the cages. (Skip to the bottom to see what you can do if you find your caterpillars in this situation.) I have two milkweeds that are doing somewhat well. Leaves can also look mottled if infested with spider mites: Tony, do you have to use food grade hydrogen peroxide? Because everything is freshly planted, I have hand watered all the new plants (all are drought tolerant plants, ground cover) and not sure if I have too much or not enough water now for the milkweed. But if it’s sickly, obviously I don’t want to do that. Hi Kathy, it sounds like you are having a major issue with tachinid flies. And how do I treat it? Note that bleaching eggs can help prevent the transmission of viruses and bacteria to monarchs, and can lower the risk of OE transmission, but will not completely kill all of the OE spores. The milkweed in my backyard raised bed is afflicted by this. These shelters can be bought online. Native milkweed typically looks pretty bad by the end of the season, so your milkweed may be … I’m worried that if it continues happening in the weeks ahead, we may end up with not enough leaves for our monarch caterpillars to munch on. Hi Terry, I use this more preventatively at the beginning of the season and overwintering plants indoors. The black spots on my curassavica look exactly like your picture so I’m going out right now to remove the unhealthy ones. He leaves look healthy otherwise. When you purchase new plants, it’s best to place them in a shadier area and gradually exposing them to more sun. I have a gray film on the leaves of my plants. It does wonders for the aphids. Of course, they accept no responsibility and told me they know nothing about caterpillars etc. Lots of foliage since I trimmed it back. The wings that don’t open and deformed chrysalises would make me thing there has been an OE infestation. It appears like a fall changing leaf, but the leaves otherwise are healthy. But right there is a possible answer~~RINSING. According to a Sept. 15 statement, three Zep disinfectants kill COVID on surfaces in just one minute. A strong enough bleach solution to kill all of the OE spores would also destroy the monarch … I have 5 monarch chrysalises safe inside now. I don’t spray h202 on eggs/caterpillars so I can’t say for sure if it would harm them. If i could offer a suggestion, find out who your local land grant university is for your state. I thought it was from the heat and lack of rain this summer, but now I’m going to remove all of the yellow mishapen plants and hope for some healthy ones to come back up. If I water my milkweed plant (from the base) it turns yellow, if I dont water it wilts. Anyone ever use the dawn and water to see if it helps with rust? hi Meg, if it’s not planted in well drained soil, root rot is a possibility, although i haven’t seen this with tropical milkweed in our northern region. Milkweeds can take full sun with some wilt if temp goes up to 110 , temp around 80-mid 90’s should be ok …they don’t need much water after the first year. I’m not sure what causes it, but it’s never been a serious problem. No way. Here are some questions to ask yourself if you see either of those symptoms. I suspect they came from the same butterfly and the sae thing would have happened in the wild, but it’s horrible to watch. When it make sense, prune away entire sections of the plant. of wetting agent (dishwashing liquid will do) Use this mixture as a foliar spray to keep your plants healthy and free from bugs. I’m new to the this and don’t want to do anything that is going to worsen the situation. Water at the base of the plants– this is less necessary if your plants have good air circulation. About 75% of them seem to be trying to leave the plant. I was going to dig up most of their milkweed and transplant it. Tony Gomez says. Tropical milkweed is almost all you can find here, but it is suggested that it’s long season may discourage mmigration to their winter sites in Mexico and contribute to the OE problem. It flourished this way. I've been very vigilant about my treatment, using tea tree oil, borax, hydrogen peroxide, lemongrass oil, eucalyptus oil, and apple cider vinegar. He was as upset as I was. I’m especially concerned because this is only happening to one of my plants, although they do get different amounts of sun exposure. Hi Todd, This hunter is a Predatory Stink Bug nymph in the subfamily Asopinae. They create a horrible stink, like a stink bug. They couldn’t offer me a solution. Is there something I can use to wash the milkweed, a mild solution of ??? What's your take on it? Can they be eating the eggs and cats? Spray spores away– spray milkweed plants and the surrounding soil with a hydrogen peroxide solution to kill fungus spores: Hydrogen Peroxide Mix for Sick or Fungusy Plants, Find a Garden Sprayer for your Hydrogen Peroxide Mix. I have successfully released 4 with 2 chrysallis pending. Hi Andrea, I don’t know much about specific fungus types, but the techniques listed have worked well to prevent and stop the spread of milkweed fungus in our northern garden. Just break off yellow leaves and discard. I have a bunch of seeds to plant and no safe place to plant them now . So I’m unsure why after many months it’s begun dying. I watered the soil with hydrogen peroxide earlier this spring (before plants start coming up). You can wash the aphids off by hand with a mild soap solution or use an insecticidal soap, but these solutions will kill caterpillars that are present during the actual application. Could I have maybe just beat them up a bit too much when I was washing them? I've wiped out the little bastards with BT, but now I'm wondering if a bud wash would be a good idea to clean off any residual BT and leftover caterpillar poop. In continuous growing regions, tropical milkweed should be cut back periodically so fresh growth can emerge: I started several tropical milkweed from cuttings, and they were doing well until a couple of days, the leaves have tiny white spots and the leaf color is lighter green. Make sure to get the undersides of the leaves. What’s even worse is that the hole Corn Borers carve into the stems creates an open doorway for other pests that will complete suck the life out of your marijuana plants.Hemp Borers will damage the buds (see picture). It looks like tiny black / brown dots all over the underside and almost like bruised or wet spots on the top side. I use hydrogen peroxide preventatively on soil and small plants. This sounds like it would be a good idea for you next season. check out this post to learn more about monarch predators and what you can do to save more monarchs: Hi Tony, is it safe to spray milkweed with a baking soda mixture or would it be harmful to cats. Monarch caterpillars rely on milkweed plants and that’s why female monarchs choose to lay their eggs on milkweed plants. © Copyright 1999 - 2020 is a part of, Harvesting Cannabis With Bugs Or Mildew - Spliffseeds, (You must log in or sign up to post here. The thought of insect shit in the weed is a major issue for me ,,, I haven't ever dealt with that issue myself .. Spider mites and fungi/mold I have . They have basically “keeled over” on a branch and died. Spray well, and rinse well. I have sprouts coming up that were fungusy last year. Could it possibly be water related—not enough or too much? Is there a way to send you an electronic picture. Hey Tony, will spraying my milkweed with the hydrogen peroxide mix for fungus hurt monarch eggs or cats. Hi Emily, ants are monarch predators. After yesterday’s wild feat i expected most of these leaves to be gone by now. Any suggestions? I figure assassin bugs kill lots of caterpillars, like cutworms and loopers, in addition to the occasional monarch or other desirable insect they get. Hi Ashlee, the plant disease shouldn’t affect the caterpillars. I also need to know if it’s safe to spray with H2O2 solution when eggs and cats are present? Can They get root rot? Any suggestions? I’ve removed each purple leaf and examined them carefully. Any suggestions? 3 Big Advantages of Winter Sown Milkweed + Winter Sowing Container ideas. Do you know how often I can spray? I use the measurements for sick/fungusy plants…2 cups in a 2 gallon watering can of the 3%. I don’t generally treat plants outdoors after the season has begun. I have not used bacteria based fungicides before and don’t know how they would affect monarchs or your local ecosystem. Things here are in a mess. If you don’t have milkweed to spare, you can transplant what you remove: How To Successfully Transplant Milkweed with Taproots. When planted a few weeks ago we were in the low 80s. Thanks. The plants infested with aphids you have to wash off the aphids by hand using water in a squirt bottle. I recommend wearing rubber gloves to keep your hands away from your eyes, and showering immediately thereafter if you are tending a large number of plants. it may perform better if it’s allowed to go through the winter part of it’s growth cycle, which it is able to do in perennial zones that still experience a true winter where the plant dies back. good luck! It is so odd! Hi Deborah, OE wouldn’t cause the caterpillars to stop eating. When they are soon going to molt, they generally crawl away from the milkweed and sit still for hours (even up to a full day). I add the vinegar for a long soak in the bath. Although hydrogen peroxide is a disinfectant and antiseptic, it is not as effective as copper fungicide in preventing late blight on tomatoes. I have since removed my other cats onto another plant. I then explained that I had been doing things this way for a long time and never before had a problem. I successfully raised over 50 butterflies at the beginning of the season and now the last 3 cages have been dying as the cats get nice size , they stop eating and just sit there for days and gradually die. I recently bought and planted 4 nice sized Asclepias curassavica ‘Silky Deep Red’ – Red Butterflyweed plants. I have a lot of yellow and black spotted leaves. Hi Wheelz, this sounds like a potential virus (NPV) or bacterial disease. Being able to keep these insects at bay is critical. 3) Use Hydrogen Peroxide to Kill Fungus Gnats. I live in central Florida. Several seemed to have tried to chrysallis to early since I see the silky black pile on the leaf and they were very small. Tony, i sprayed with the 1 tablespoon 3% hydrogen per 8 oz water yesterday. Hydrogen peroxide is a nontoxic alternative to chemical pest control and breaks down into water and oxygen. Hi Michelle, we use h202 preventatively (in spring before milkweed emerges) and to overwinter plants indoors. It starts off with small Yellowish brown bumps all over the underside of the leaves. Should I try and find new cuttings from a different source? This is because the OE spores have a thick spore wall, and can be lodged in the grooves of the egg chorion where they are protected from bleaching. I’d also like to add that last year I had the worst aphid infestation imaginable. I apply hydrogen peroxide according to this helpful chart: Would the hydrogen peroxide possibly work? Or is it not getting enough sun? Using a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution will help to repel insects and will also kill any eggs that may have been laid. I want to get ahead of the fungus this year because last year I was far behind. Thank you, Hi Gloria, I use it preventatively and haven’t had to use it during the season. While I’m not seeing many aphids (the ladybugs are getting them! I would also try spraying the remaining stem with a hydrogen peroxide mix…see the chart linked in the article. Thoroughly inspect your milkweed, rescue any eggs or caterpillars, and move them onto an uninfected plant, or to a protected location, like a netted butterfly pavilion. Plants affected by this should be immediately removed and discarded. 2. ). While DEET may kill aphids on your milkweed, it’s also going to kill monarch eggs and caterpillars. I have seen a lot of ants. I have also noticed that the leaves on some plants (even in other locations) are very small. Do I saturate the ground with hydrogen peroxide or just spray the surface? The cats must be protected from them by putting the branches of milkweed in water and bringing them into a protective shelter with mesh sides and a zipper. Will they be fine having been on that plant? To spray on sick or fungusy plants: TO THIS AMOUNT OF WATER ADD THIS AMOUNT OF 3% HYDROGEN PEROXIDE 1 cup --1 tablespoon 1 pint-- 2 tablespoons 1 quart-- 1/4 cup 1 gallon-- 1 cup 5 gallons-- 5 cups 10 gallons-- 10 cups 20 gallons-- 20 cups As you may notice, the amount of peroxide in the chart for sick and fungusy plants is twice as much as … Do you know what would cause this stunted growth and discoloration? I have a lot of milkweed- probably 15 different patches throughout my yard. Hi Cait, I cut ours back with a hand pruner. What is it. More info here: What is the best way to trim back my milkweed? I would not spray with the solution if any caterpillars are on the affected plants but rather remove them, then spray. Monarch caterpillars grow fast and molt (shed their skin) five times during their growth. I’ve got them separated into three different milkweed cuttings. Spray early next season including the soil before plants emerge…good luck! Thanks for your time. Will this dilute spray harm them if some hits them by accident? When leaves turn yellow, or start getting spotting/discoloration, try one or more of the following: If you’ve successfully conquered milkweed diseases by using other techniques not listed, please share your experience and help a gardener out…, Valentine Gift Ideas for a Butterfly Lover, Start or Improve your Monarch Butterfly Garden, Butterfly Garden Book for Monarchs- Instant Download, Top Tools, Supplies, and Resources for Raising Monarch Butterflies, Monarch Butterfly Kits to Raise Caterpillars into Butterflies, 25 Milkweed Plant Ideas for North American Butterfly Gardens, Winter Sowing Milkweed Seeds Part 1: Supply Checklist. If some hits them by accident 2020 this article mentions using a peroxide. That have a bunch of seeds to plant them now Red Butterflyweed plants will thrive antiseptic, it ’ more... Ll quickly spread the bacteria to other plants in the post for how much shit comes out my... 8 “ cow pots ” sitting in a plastic container sitting on heat mats and Under. 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